This is a man who is only 38, and has studied molecular biology*, made millions in biotech, understands Big Pharma, but he's also done a law degree at Yale. He is that rarest of combinations — the CEO who understand biology and science, and the lawyer who reads the constitution, and the investor who has played and won on Wall Street. He is all of these things.

I've never heard a Presidential candidate speak like this — with an eight year plan grounded in the legal foundations of the nation. He knows employment laws make individuals unsackable, but whole departments can be razed. Nothing can stop the President from dismantling the FBI if he wants to. Ramaswamy is already assembling a team, picking the players. He can list what he will get done by 2033 when he leaves office and his youngest starts high school.

Last week I played a small extract of this interview with Shawn Ryan — where Ramaswamy described how the FDA is captured by Big Pharmaceutical firms. ( "Big Pharma is the worlds biggest lobbying organisation")  But the whole interview is compelling and I've listened to interviews before about his books, about Woke Inc, about Strive (the Capital Fund he set up that runs counter to BlackRock and ESG) but this is  about Ramaswamy himself, and his plan for the US, the Deep State and this strange moment in history.  As the child of Indian immigrants he can explain what makes America Great better than many Americans can.

His role in this campaign will surely change it — his competitors must be listening to interviews like this, taking notes.