Tucker begins by asking Archer if he thinks Hunter could have succeeded as well in his business endeavors if he was not the son of the vice president. Archer trod a little carefully at first, reflecting on Hunter's law school background but then admitted:

"The brand of Biden adds a lot of power when your dad's the Vice President."

Archer also confirmed "yes, I can definitely say that" then vice-president Biden knew there were officials in the room when he got on the speakerphone with Hunter Biden - the 20 or so times that Archer recalls.

"So Joe Biden, who is very much a product of Washington, of course must have known that he was calling into effectively a business meeting," Carlson said. "Something's happening. He must have understood that that was kind of what his son was selling."

"Well that's hard for me to speculate," Archer answered. " "But like, just to keep it to the facts, Joe Biden, then the sitting Vice President knew that there were Hunter's business associates in the room," Carlson pressed.