It's hard to take you serious, Chuck, when you still praise Arizona's "papers please" law that threatens the very fabric of the Bill of Rights.  

When the courts rule that arbitrary "guidelines" aren't sufficient to avoid "racial profiling," the state will simply comply by demanding citizenship papers from all government encounters.

It's a shame a man of the cloth can't see though this shameful act and degradation of our rights, and as the immense threat to personal liberties that it poses.

I've been thinking about this more and more. If the federal government can't stop imposing uniformity across the states, the fact is that conservatives and liberal progressives and everybody in between is becoming equally miserable.

I've begun to long for a condition in which, say Vermont could totally turn itself into a socialist Utopia and right next door run New Hampshire stricly conservative. Know what think we'd find?

I think we'd find both can function. I think we'd find there are some people who are just cut out to live as liberals and some as cons.

So here's the nation divided over shall we have it this way or that way and the lonely secessionist saying wait, why can't we ALL have it our way?

Oyate, I think you are mostly right, but you are not going far enough... look up voluntaryism if you haven't. It leaves room for socialists coexisting with libertarians. It gets away from 51% of the population stealing from 49% of the population. When people get to voluntarily participate in the form of government they choose, everyone wins. Anarchists and Communists in the same state, happy. As long as nobody can impose their views on others and violate the rest of the populations rights, everyone can be happy.