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Comment by Barry Hess
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This is a parody right?  After all, 'who' else but a kool-aide drinker would spout nonsense like saying the Fed wasn't a "private" bank (run by thieves) and then not demonstrate what is wrong with the assertion.  It was weird reading, like he (or she) was told what to say and had nothing but denials in his/her bag of 'free speech' tricks.  No substance whatsoever.  I even read the Robinson Caruso bit--waste of my time with more of the same drivel. I guess these apologists for the Fed have a reason, but other than being on the payroll--I can't think of any.  It would seem 'normal' for a 'free speecher' to repeat nonsense ad nausium in hopes of convincing a thinking person that the sky is not blue........too, bad, cause the only thing worth noting is the clown picture--is it the writer?


Comment by quasi-political
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I'm thinkin' HR1207


Comment by Freed Radical
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Ernie-- Can we please lose this neo-con troll from Freedom's Phoenix? We can hear this "the FED is essential to life as we know it" garbage from the lamestream media. This clown still believes the government's 9/11 conspiracy theory and defends torture and the Patriot Act. Maybe we should stop advocating freedom and merge with "Free Republic." Eric


Comment by TheRockster
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Where's the "onion" link to this ridiculous twaddle? I must approve the lickspittle author's pen-name, "Some Cad."

This alien obviously came from Uranus.


Comment by Michael Haggard
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He is real and he is a poor writer. http://findtheroot.blogspot.com/2007/07/have-you-been-following-2008-u.html I have lived in a non-english speaking nation for 6 years now, and I have graded paper written in english by ESL students that were better constructed than this one. His BIO is self written here: http://www.helium.com/users/279442 and is as proofless of his claims as the above article.


Comment by Powell Gammill
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Ad hominum attacks do not do anyone justice on FP.  Edwin may very well be fluent in English as a second language as he is from the U.S. Commonwealth of Puerto Rico.


Comment by Ernest Hancock
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The Truth About The Fed That Hurts

Letter Written by: Lolo
Date of Letter: 2009-06-25
Subject: Federal Reserve

 Dear Ernie,


I could understand why on June 24th, 2009 FP.com withdrew from public viewing the two research-backed opinions I wrote about the Fed, namely:
 

I. Who Said Federal Reserve Is A Private Banking Institution?

II. Federal Reserve Is “Private” Institution

Run By “Thieves” Is A Dangerous Lie.   Dr. Ron Paul, a known Libertarian, is leading the campaign to abolish the United States Federal Reserve, which according to him and his followers is a private institution run by “thieves”. He is supported by Paulian worshipers and his libertarian agenda is promoted by FP.com.   The titles of the withdrawn editorials alone are enough to upset Paul’s followers – especially those who feel deeply for him and couldn’t think deeper on the adverse implication of his campaign or could not see and admit that the Fed is not a private but a federal, public institution.   The choice between giving the public the rare opportunity to see the truth that the Fed is a public entity thereby undermining the basis of the anti-Fed abolition campaign that it is a “private” banking agency run by “thieves” on one hand, and suppressing the truth to protect Paul’s public image on the other, is not an easy decision for you to make. You chose the latter.   I respect that. As I said I understand. This is your website, and I do not question your right of ownership as to what extent you are going to use it, to promote your own personal and public purposes.

But I do support your public purpose – and that is to provide the public a venue of free expression. That’s why I am here.  It is from here that the legendary Phoenix surges back to life … to rise to the immeasurable height of freedom from the ruins of dictatorship, from the stranglehold of despotism and intolerance, and to be free of government censorship that wilts life itself.  You and I are parallel in this destiny -- to fight and die for freedom.   The purpose of this letter which I hope you will publish is to let you know that I have never attacked or criticized Dr. Ron Paul’s person. I admire his private person, just as I love my son, a very loving and humane person, which is a gift to humanity.  I only disagree with his publicly declared economic and political philosophies as we search for a true leader this country can rely on in times of bliss and crises.   Also to let you and our reading public know that the withdrawn pieces are in my FP.com log-in file, complete with a truckload of angry comments of those in the campaign trail to abolish the Fed.  They appeared to be deeply hurt by the articles – actually seemed severely wounded by the truth they saw for the first time that the Fed is not a private entity that they had been led for so long to believe.   Since the withdrawn Fed articles and this rain of vitriolic comments are only accessible to me, I am the only one who sees the axe before it drops and slices the flesh.  I think you designed it this way … to shield my agony from public viewing, and to send me the unspoken message that full reading of the expose’ is not welcome in this site, even though it is a great opportunity for any reader to know that in those written editorials lies the erstwhile one-time reality or the only hidden truth, about the Fed.   There is nothing mean-spirited in those hurtful comments that I have not anticipated.  I said so myself right in the articles itself. Those who feel deeply for Paul and cannot think as deep as their feelings, as to what his politics and economics mean to the country, will immediately dive into personal attacks right after they read the expose’, throwing the author to the shredder and make mincemeat out of his person.  The can only do so because it is all feelings – nothing above the chest, or anything academic about it, beyond those emotions. Thus I do not bother myself wasting my time in answering them.  I have lost any desire to give the light of knowledge and understanding they sorely needed, especially to those who could no longer be helped.   I noticed that among those spiteful comments, only Powell Gammil is having a ball out of those printed personal abuses – he said so himself that he enjoyed it.  However, he is the only one that defends FP.com from being dragged down to the gutter as a result of “ad hominum” attacks that were allowed in print against the person of the writer – which obviously he believes is not good for a freedom site.   

“Comment by: Powell Gammill 
Entered on: 2009-06-24 21:58:01
   

“Ad hominum attacks do not do anyone justice on FP.  Edwin may very well be fluent in English as a second language as he is from the U.S. Commonwealth of Puerto Rico.”

I would not even comment on what Gammill said about myself. Gammill is obviously not one of them.  But here’s a tap on the head: Terrorists who attacked my English only know the English of terror.  What English are they talking about other than their own?  If they can show several journalism awards of excellence like I have, then perhaps they have a redeeming quality to be saved from the firing squad.

Yours truly,

Edwin A. Sumcad


 
Writer: Ernest Hancock
Writer's Response: Edwin,   Free-Market advocates _know_ that the Federal Reserve isn't a free-market entity. Try to compete with something else (even backed by precious metals) and you'll get a jack-booted understanding of how the money monopoly really works.   FreedomsPhoenix' editorial policy is pretty much whatever Powell and I say it is. The overwhelming principle is to allow for free expression of opinion. The structure of the site allows the readers to easily avoid writers that they have learned are Brain Drains and a waste of time.   However, for those hoping to take advantage of the opportunity to make their opinions clear on a particular subject using the writings of another is stimulating to many. For new readers, they can only get the 'Free flow of ideas' concept over time and the comments section helps them speed this process up.   Your article is still on the front page at the bottom in the Opinion and Article section. And you'll notice that we reformatted the site so that the comments show up on the same page opened to the original article. This change was motivated by you and others that would use FreedomsPhoenix to promote their writings without any say from the readers of the site about what you have to say.   Soooooo, this change allows for you to share your writings while the site readers are able to provide their comments on what was shared.   Of all of the postings that you have made on this site I have read maybe the first two... I get it :) But the comments are always entertaining.   Most of the awareness I have of your postings is due to the emails I get wondering why I would allow your work on FreedomsPhoenix in the first place. But then I get some of those emails about others' writings that I personally like. So I do my best not to make any more of a judgment other than how long I allow the piece to be on the front page and how high on the front page. Very rarely to I just delete a posting. I think that I have done that maybe 5 times over almost 5 years and 60,000 entries.   It wouldn't surprise me if one of your writings were one of them but I usually target for deletion the stories that are superficial and full of useless personal attacks that are without a meaningful purpose.   Privately to my friends and supporters I do my best defending the publishing of your work... "for the entertainment and education of our readers about the thought process of people that support (fill in the blank)"   I'm sure that there may come a time that we will be more selective due to an over whelming volume of entries (we are already at two daily editions - and I doubt we'll go to a regular 3rd edition) But for now I hope to keep the site open to those that are very counter to the opinions of our editors and the majority of our readers.   Your opinions are... well, you are the one that has to defend them in the open here. And that is the only way that they are ever going to appear on this site... in the open, surrounded by the comments of others about what you had to say.   Now don't make me have to read all of your stuff,... depending on my mood, I just might hit the delete key :)   Ernie

 


Comment by Larken Rose
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It's easy to get lost in confusing minutia, instead of focusing on obvious principles. People can predict all manner of mayhem if not for the glorious Federal Reserve "protecting" us, but here is the painfully simple, undeniable bottom line: The Federal Reserve makes money out of nothing. Then, mostly through loans, they trade the new fabricated currency for the real time and effort of people who have to earn their money, who can't just make it up out of thin air. In other words, the Federal Reserve gets lots and lots of power and wealth in exchange for NOTHING. The Fed doesn't produce one scrap of actual value or wealth. That's simply not disputable, nor does the Fed even try to hide that fact. Of course, if you or I traded NOTHING for lots and lots of wealth, it would be called fraud and theft, and rightly so. So who wants to make the argument that we NEED some group committing TRILLIONS of dollars of theft and fraud every year? Can someone explain why we should be thankful that someone is doing that? Anyone?

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